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S3 Episode 1: Janet & Adonica chat about unexpected life changes, self-care, money + Janet answers questions about the pop up



Welcome to Season 3!  If you love what we are doing, please continue the conversation in our closed Facebook Group! 

Making Money Moves is  brought to you by Janet’s List, hosted by Janet Oganah and Adonica Simmons. The aim of our podcast is to open up conversations about money, mind-set, and the moves people have made to build successful businesses. If you are a female entrepreneur, a high impact woman or are simply looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. We interview inspiring guests, mostly women of colour, who are building incredible businesses. Our guests will also share tips and strategies, which you can apply at any stage of your entrepreneurial journey.

As we have been away from a little while, Adonica and I decided to have a lovely little chat to introduce Season 3. We discussed 2019, keeping the balls afloat, dealing with unexpected circumstances, practising self-care and of course MONEY.  We also reflected on previous podcast episodes (Maggie Semple, Tahlia Gray, Collette Phillip/Harriet Minter and the practical actions we took from these podcast.

We also discussed the popup – Adonica asked Janet lots of questions about this.  Janet discussed planning, a bit of ‘behind-the-scenes’ stuff, our favourite pop up shop moments.  Janet discussed the PR we received. the incredible process of working with fave Deborah T Johnson and fabulous team work and expertise. Ultimately there are no shortcuts. Janet needed to do the work to increase the probability of getting press coverage and the incomparable Deborah brought in her expertise and advice that was needed.

Janet’s List – @JanetsList (Instagram) and @JanetsList (Twitter)

Janet Oganah: @Janet_Oganah (Twitter)

Adonica Simmons: Global Style Services (Instagram)

The overall mission of Janet’s List is to connect consumers with women of colour in business. We want to close the gap between consumers and women of colour in business and to improve diversity in the business landscape. We also have a curated edit on Janet’s List where you can buy directly from fantastic brands by women of colour.

Podcast listeners! You can get a special discount of 10% off Janet’s List using the code: JANETSLIST10

Stay tuned and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and your favourite podcast apps.


S2 Episode 1 (MINISODE): Kelechi Okafor on crowdfunding



Welcome to Season 2 of the podcast!  If you love what we are doing, please sponsor us on Patreon.

Making Money Moves is  brought to you by Janet’s List, hosted by Janet Oganah and Adonica Simmons. The aim of our podcast is to open up conversations about money, mind-set, and the moves people have made to build successful businesses. If you are a female entrepreneur, a high impact woman or are simply looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. We interview inspiring guests, mostly women of colour, who are building incredible businesses. Our guests will also share tips and strategies, which you can apply at any stage of your entrepreneurial journey.

We had an epic chat with Kelechi Okafor (are you ready for the receipts?): pole dancing instructor, studio owner, actress, public speaker, letter writer extraordinaire and a baby girl. In part one, Kelechi discusses being an actress, her experiences on television and the micro-aggressions faced by black female actresses.  In part two Kelechi lays out her journey from teaching pole dancing classes to establishing her very own studios in North and South London.  This episode is part three, a minisode, where Kelechi discusses her experiences of crowdfunding. 

If you would like to connect with us on social media, you can find us all here:

Here’s what you’ll learn this episode:

If you would like to connect with us on social media, you can find us all here:

Kelechi – @Kelechnekoff (Twitter) & (Instagram)

Janet’s List – @JanetsList (Instagram) and @JanetsList (Twitter)

Janet Oganah: @Janet_Oganah (Twitter)

Adonica Simmons: Global Style Services (Instagram)

The overall mission of Janet’s List is to connect consumers with women of colour in business. We want to close the gap between consumers and women of colour in business and to improve diversity in the business landscape. We also have a curated edit on Janet’s List where you can buy directly from fantastic brands by women of colour.

Podcast listeners! You can get a special discount of 10% off Janet’s List using the code: JANETSLIST10

Stay tuned and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and your favourite podcast apps


S2 Episode 1b: Kelechi Okafor on building her brand, her studio business & her revenue streams.



Welcome to Season 2!  If you love what we are doing, please sponsor us on Patreon! 

Making Money Moves is  brought to you by Janet’s List, hosted by Janet Oganah and Adonica Simmons. The aim of our podcast is to open up conversations about money, mind-set, and the moves people have made to build successful businesses. If you are a female entrepreneur, a high impact woman or are simply looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. We interview inspiring guests, mostly women of colour, who are building incredible businesses. Our guests will also share tips and strategies, which you can apply at any stage of your entrepreneurial journey.

We had an epic chat with Kelechi Okafor (are you ready for the receipts?): pole dancing instructor, studio owner, actress, public speaker, letter writer extraordinaire and a baby girl. 

In part two Kelechi lays out her journey from teaching pole dancing classes to establishing her very own studios in North and South London. Kelechi speaks about overcoming small thinking with the support of her partner, maximising the potential of her first studio and making a profit while keeping prices accessible, and raising her profile through features in Time Out, BBC Three’s Twerking Through Trauma and a Gal Dem live event at the V&A.

Kelechi speaks about the safe space she’s created in her classes where women feel comfortable enough to take their wigs off to get down, as well as the importance of sensuality and eroticism for maintaining a form of sexiness that hold humanity at its core.

Make sure you also catch our minisode where Kelechi break’s down the benefits of crowd-funding.

Here’s what you’ll learn this episode:

  • Its interesting how dedicated we are to being small’ [4.17]
  • Finding a location for her studio and working out costs [6:45]
  • Using social media, video and geo-tagging and other tips and tricks to drive business [7:05]
  • Using wedding funds as a start-up budget? A partner who supports your dreams [9:05]
  • The myths around interracial relationships, and the man Kelechi does not hide [11:28]!
  • Breaking and even and making profit in the first few months while pricing inclusively [13:00] 
  • Business branding, and deliberate presentation of a sexiness that retains humanity [22:34]. 
  • Focusing on the clients experience as a marketing tool – giving the audience images of themselves to attract them to your services [26:20]
  • Counting Kelechi’s revenue streams [27:23]
  • Negotiating your pricing – recognising your worth and seeing the bigger picture invoicing as a love letter to yourself [29;32]
  • Investing in a signature feature for your brand [36:08]
  • 42.00 – Janet’s List spotlight – Jim & Henry, A Life More Inspired and Equi Botanics 

If you would like to connect with us on social media, you can find us all here:

Here’s what you’ll learn this episode:

If you would like to connect with us on social media, you can find us all here:

Kelechi – @Kelechnekoff (Twitter) & (Instagram)

Janet’s List – @JanetsList (Instagram) and @JanetsList (Twitter)

Janet Oganah: @Janet_Oganah (Twitter)

Adonica Simmons: Global Style Services (Instagram)

The overall mission of Janet’s List is to connect consumers with women of colour in business. We want to close the gap between consumers and women of colour in business and to improve diversity in the business landscape. We also have a curated edit on Janet’s List where you can buy directly from fantastic brands by women of colour.

Podcast listeners! You can get a special discount of 10% off Janet’s List using the code: JANETSLIST10

Stay tuned and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and your favourite podcast apps


S2 Episode 1a – Kelechi Okafor talks to us about acting, podcasting, her dream role, appearing on BBC Special Forces and being a baby girl!



Welcome to Season 2!  If you love what we are doing, please sponsor us on Patreon! 

Making Money Moves is  brought to you by Janet’s List, hosted by Janet Oganah and Adonica Simmons. The aim of our podcast is to open up conversations about money, mind-set, and the moves people have made to build successful businesses. If you are a female entrepreneur, a high impact woman or are simply looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. We interview inspiring guests, mostly women of colour, who are building incredible businesses. Our guests will also share tips and strategies, which you can apply at any stage of your entrepreneurial journey.

We had an epic chat with Kelechi Okafor (are you ready for the receipts?): pole dancing instructor, studio owner, actress, public speaker, letter writer extraordinaire and a baby girl. In part one Kelechi speaks about her experiences as a black actress in the UK; from highlighting stereotypical casting calls to handling micro aggressions on reality TV, Kelechi unpacks the dynamics at play behind the scenes – leaping every hurdle thrown at her on BBC’s ‘Special Forces’, grabbing an opportunity to work in artist management in Atlanta and revealing her dream role to play lead role in a Serena Williams biopic. Kelechi walks us through the bold moves she’s made in creating her own path, championing the importance of building a strong foundation and framework of support in the people working at her level.

Here’s what you’ll learn this episode:

  • Speaking your truth and finding your voice [3:20]
  • Dealing with typecasting [5:40]
  • Plan b: subsidising an acting career [7:18] 
  • Artist management in Atlanta (in search of Ciara) [13:15] 
  • Appearing on BBC show Special Forces in South Africa, conquering fears and prioritising self care in the absence of group support [14.47] 
  • Kelechi’s dream role – Serena Williams [22:40] 
  • Moving with the people at your level – the people that make you strong are the people around you [25:07] 
  • Writing letters, carve our spaces and exist in them without apology [26:55] 
  • Fan Girl moment – special shout-out to Njoki [35:08]
  • Live podcasting – the fun of thinking on your feet [26:41] 

If you would like to connect with us on social media, you can find us all here:

Kelechi – @Kelechnekoff Twitter

Janet’s List – @JanetsList (Instagram) and @JanetsList (Twitter)

Janet Oganah: @Janet_Oganah (Twitter)

Adonica Simmons: Global Style Services (Instagram)

The overall mission of Janet’s List is to connect consumers with women of colour in business. We want to close the gap between consumers and women of colour in business and to improve diversity in the business landscape. We also have a curated edit on Janet’s List where you can buy directly from fantastic brands by women of colour.

Podcast listeners! You can get a special discount of 10% off Janet’s List using the code: JANETSLIST10

Stay tuned and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes and your favourite podcast apps